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	<title>Comments on: An effective 10-20m DX antenna for deed restricted lots&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: VE7JM Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>VE7JM Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve built this antenna from a  16foot aluminum pool skimmer handle.
Overall length is 16.75 feet with a small bit of very stiff copper wire on top..
Where the 2 sections join I have fastened it solid with sheet metal screw and placed a heavy copper &#039;jumper&#039; wire over to the top section.
I made an &#039;ugly balun&#039; attached at the feed point.
with 2 x 1/4wave radials for 10-15-20m.
It sits on top of a flat garage roof.
This antenna loads up with quite low swr on those 3 bands and the ATU in my FT-990 does the rest..with an outboard KW107 supermatch I can also run the bands in between. There is no RF in the shack unless a quite serious mismatch...the snow is starting so things seem to change a bit every day..

The sunspots are pretty good right now, and on all 5 bands I have been able to work anything I can hear all over the world 360degrees.

I&#039;m actually quite surprised and very pleased at the performance...especially on 20m with a mere 1/4 wavelength or so..I have done no trimming or messing around with radial length.
Jim 
VE7JM
Castlegar, BC, Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve built this antenna from a  16foot aluminum pool skimmer handle.<br />
Overall length is 16.75 feet with a small bit of very stiff copper wire on top..<br />
Where the 2 sections join I have fastened it solid with sheet metal screw and placed a heavy copper &#8216;jumper&#8217; wire over to the top section.<br />
I made an &#8216;ugly balun&#8217; attached at the feed point.<br />
with 2 x 1/4wave radials for 10-15-20m.<br />
It sits on top of a flat garage roof.<br />
This antenna loads up with quite low swr on those 3 bands and the ATU in my FT-990 does the rest..with an outboard KW107 supermatch I can also run the bands in between. There is no RF in the shack unless a quite serious mismatch&#8230;the snow is starting so things seem to change a bit every day..</p>
<p>The sunspots are pretty good right now, and on all 5 bands I have been able to work anything I can hear all over the world 360degrees.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually quite surprised and very pleased at the performance&#8230;especially on 20m with a mere 1/4 wavelength or so..I have done no trimming or messing around with radial length.<br />
Jim<br />
VE7JM<br />
Castlegar, BC, Canada</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Miniaci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Miniaci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wooo ! i use this same type of antenna here in Cambodia i just run 63 &#039; of  number 10 wire  from my neighbor&#039;s  foof top/ down  to my houses cement wall /with a glass  wine bottle..            ! feed with rg59u coax; shield to a neer by cement wall !   10watts  am  1600 khz.               ! lol !   73s mr. Bill !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wooo ! i use this same type of antenna here in Cambodia i just run 63 &#8216; of  number 10 wire  from my neighbor&#8217;s  foof top/ down  to my houses cement wall /with a glass  wine bottle..            ! feed with rg59u coax; shield to a neer by cement wall !   10watts  am  1600 khz.               ! lol !   73s mr. Bill !</p>
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		<title>By: ruud abrahams  PA0RAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruud abrahams  PA0RAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OM.
restricted by local and landlord laws and a smal yard i surfed the net looking for solutions to experiment. Some one&#039;s are described as a wonder antenna but don&#039;t believ it. All verticals use a ground or radials and are frequently monobanders. However, some known  horizontal wire antennas can be erected to vertical and in mine opinion  an antenna is like a coil and condensator You had to tune it. So one meets onpredictable problems ans solitions.
If you are restricted  you can find on fleemarkets and hamevents material to experiment. and simon&#039;s antenne is a fine example  in recycling a CB antenna.
Simon said  this kind of antenne had a high swr so start al you experiments with low power and  a ATU  the simpliest tuner saves your txr final  a few euros  spend to a (ferrit) coil and broadcast tuning condenser is cheaper then  the power transistorrepai
the experimental antenna i build  used a glasfiberfishing rod(old fashioned bamboo is o.k  modern carbon is conductif)glued the pieces together an did not use the twiggy topsection. From foot to the top i wound copper wire approx 15 metres  with a fingertip spation to start  and 3mm 1/8 at the top
al windings glued with a drop epoxie.
First use eleved about 3 metres 10 feet by another piece of fishingrod tyraped together and uprected by 2mm steel guidewires some bands gives me a very high SWR  difficult to tune away 
Second attemp using a balun firts a cabelcurrent isolating a little better.but some bands  not useable.
A second balun  in the matching circuit first  a 1 : 4  a lot better Then a 1 : 9 attemp  again better.
The automatic ATU gives  only a few clicks at changing bands  and all bands are tuneable 50 - 1,8
 for the experiment i dont use Amidon ferritcores but pieces of broken broadcast ferritantennas  First tuning at 2 watts and when tuned  i use for safety 60 watts  but the sistem hold un
wanted accidentical full power 115 watts
the next eperiments  are something with the radials shortened from 0,28 wavelength to 1,50 m 60&quot; and each  band  tuned by a coil  like a shortened dipol 
So simones antenne gives a lot of low cost experimenting and the results may suprise you  
55 +73 Ruud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM.<br />
restricted by local and landlord laws and a smal yard i surfed the net looking for solutions to experiment. Some one&#8217;s are described as a wonder antenna but don&#8217;t believ it. All verticals use a ground or radials and are frequently monobanders. However, some known  horizontal wire antennas can be erected to vertical and in mine opinion  an antenna is like a coil and condensator You had to tune it. So one meets onpredictable problems ans solitions.<br />
If you are restricted  you can find on fleemarkets and hamevents material to experiment. and simon&#8217;s antenne is a fine example  in recycling a CB antenna.<br />
Simon said  this kind of antenne had a high swr so start al you experiments with low power and  a ATU  the simpliest tuner saves your txr final  a few euros  spend to a (ferrit) coil and broadcast tuning condenser is cheaper then  the power transistorrepai<br />
the experimental antenna i build  used a glasfiberfishing rod(old fashioned bamboo is o.k  modern carbon is conductif)glued the pieces together an did not use the twiggy topsection. From foot to the top i wound copper wire approx 15 metres  with a fingertip spation to start  and 3mm 1/8 at the top<br />
al windings glued with a drop epoxie.<br />
First use eleved about 3 metres 10 feet by another piece of fishingrod tyraped together and uprected by 2mm steel guidewires some bands gives me a very high SWR  difficult to tune away<br />
Second attemp using a balun firts a cabelcurrent isolating a little better.but some bands  not useable.<br />
A second balun  in the matching circuit first  a 1 : 4  a lot better Then a 1 : 9 attemp  again better.<br />
The automatic ATU gives  only a few clicks at changing bands  and all bands are tuneable 50 &#8211; 1,8<br />
 for the experiment i dont use Amidon ferritcores but pieces of broken broadcast ferritantennas  First tuning at 2 watts and when tuned  i use for safety 60 watts  but the sistem hold un<br />
wanted accidentical full power 115 watts<br />
the next eperiments  are something with the radials shortened from 0,28 wavelength to 1,50 m 60&#8243; and each  band  tuned by a coil  like a shortened dipol<br />
So simones antenne gives a lot of low cost experimenting and the results may suprise you<br />
55 +73 Ruud</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh M5GWH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh M5GWH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - I made Bob&#039;s K7ZB 20m to 10m vertical and also his stealth 40m vertical (http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=7544) - and both work really well. 

Both are simple designs, straightforward to make and very cost effective too!

Plan to put another 20m to 10m one into service at my new home to work alonside my lower HF wires and rid my yard of commercially made HF antennas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; I made Bob&#8217;s K7ZB 20m to 10m vertical and also his stealth 40m vertical (<a href="http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=7544" rel="nofollow">http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=7544</a>) &#8211; and both work really well. </p>
<p>Both are simple designs, straightforward to make and very cost effective too!</p>
<p>Plan to put another 20m to 10m one into service at my new home to work alonside my lower HF wires and rid my yard of commercially made HF antennas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In america and canada, due to ham radio being classified as an emergency service, you can skirt around all local and state/provincial antenna-height laws. good idea though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In america and canada, due to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Operating_Aids/Beginner_s_Guides/What_Amateur_Radio_is/">ham radio</a> being classified as an emergency service, you can skirt around all local and state/provincial antenna-height laws. good idea though.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article for those of us in Tampa on deed restricted lots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article for those of us in Tampa on deed restricted lots.</p>
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		<title>By: TIm G. Bate</title>
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		<dc:creator>TIm G. Bate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clean workmanship!  Good looking antenna....

I might suggest using a telescopic aluminum flagpole, as you can raise or lower it to work various bands. 

73&#039;s!

KD0DVS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clean workmanship!  Good looking antenna&#8230;.</p>
<p>I might suggest using a telescopic aluminum flagpole, as you can raise or lower it to work various bands. </p>
<p>73&#8242;s!</p>
<p>KD0DVS</p>
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		<title>By: satyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cud u pls send some rough drawings by mail pls, i am newly licensed fom india, call sign vu3mes

73s satyan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cud u pls send some rough drawings by mail pls, i am newly licensed fom india, call sign vu3mes</p>
<p>73s satyan</p>
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